that all sounds about right on the base. I've been through 4 different designs for that.

Thanx for the post )v(, on one of the first posts i made i said that i didn't steal you're M. I forget where tho. yah mine is \ / also. thats why the "V "and the middle part of the "m" are taller = )

Any ideas on HOW to do that nut? As i mentioned i got this program 3 weeks ago. So i'm a little lost on how to bump map one specific part, and how to do the texturing to for an object like that. Beleive it or not its just a Sdivided cube with some extruding(indruding actually = ).

Thankx so much )v(