Originally posted by Jay To Stop that 'spreading' on the wing, just add some more geometry (in poly) closer to it to give it a sharper edge or you could go to the subd menu set and apply a full crease on the edges. Rember Subds are a smoothing algorythm, the less geometry you have the smoother the effect, unless of course you do the above Jay Hey thanks Jay. I played with the crease tools but I only use the subD to see how it looks smoothed so....when I go back to poly and then to subD again the crease is gone. :/ I was playing around with it and found out you can actually convert to SubD w/out merging the verts, which solved the problem.