cool thanks for the link ZeroAlarm. that would help me quiet abit out in other rendering areas from what ived seen in it now

hey simon, haha yeah the zip file you posted, i just rendered out and was really really dark lol. but ill try again tomorrow when i come back from the city to compaire both of these's rendering settings.

does anyone know whats happening still with that error? i get it every time i render now and my renders look like hell. seriously, the plane image just goes to one color and it does not give it that fuzzy soft feel. whats going on with my MAYA!

error: "Warning: (Mayatomr.Scene) : mentalrayIbl2: light not found for light linking, ignored"

seems like theres no light source. huh