Originally posted by Jr.Who I like the model, but I hate the lighting. BTW, why did you create 2 topics with the same image? really i agree with you Jr.Who but as mr perfecto said i'm just trying to play with mental ray to have a real look ... so i will attach another picture with this post with another playings in mental rays options thanks alot for your replay note : sorry if i posted two topics with the same picture i dont catch this mistake