kbrown i like that idea but the room is like a science lab in some sub-level laboratory research centre, so thats why its dark cuz its all bulb lights

Kurt its not ALL nurbs but in making some of the objects in the scene, yes nurbs made it quite easy whereas for others polys made it much easier

but thanks for you opinions suggestions and stuff, any more? pick it apart find the things you dont like and tell me i want to work and not look funny or awkward ya know?

thanks again

Kyle