LOL thanks Jay....not fussed mate....carrying on.

Now can I get some help here...I have done the central buckle device..Im not sure how to do the belt. I will do the anchor points...not a problem....I was thinking just an extrusion of a rectangle...subs to suit....then using maybe dynamics to get it to 'flop' onto the seat..then delete history??? any takers? I will of course detach the buckles and parent to each belt then use a gravity field to affect them.

cheers bullet

EDIT: I think I figured it out....ncloth...point constraint.....dynamics.........solved...I hope...