@ emo; no I won't @roco 5000; thanks and I haven't even noticed the difference between episode2 and episode 3 yoda @gamester;I've made a lighter render just for you:hug: (off topic; when i rendered the previous /darker images it looked quite good and i could see al the detail but when i look at the image on another monitor the picture is to dark. i have a samsung syncmaster 940 bf monitor(tft), could you or anybody else tell me why this is ?) And yes i want to do the body also, i'm even thinking of animating him, make him play around with his lightsaber a little bit