the neck was also tilted forward which made him look more like creature..any coments from u guys would be great later on. One good thing that happened today ..I almost thought it was my graphics sard that went bad coz everytime i rendered with maya i had some kind of like a rainbow effect on my surface ..well if any of u ever had or have this problemm...i found the solution! its a stupid thing ..for some reason my pc image resolution went down from 32 bit to 16..so that was it i put it back to 32! ..duuhhhh