Why? Its too good! although if you compare my first model to some of my later one its alot better (and now i could solve all the problems with it easily) its kirts dragon (well the head anyway): https://forum.simplymaya.com/showthre...ghlight=dragon I excpected to get it to look exactly like kirts and it was in the middle of the holidays so i had so much time to tweak it so even though its my first model i think its my best (it has problems but aesthetically i think its great). Although sadly i didnt have history turned on and then saved it after smoothing which meant i never got to uv mapping it I want to try and model a hyper/photo- realistic model yet i just dont have the time, and the immediate future doesnt look good for time either (exams ) I also have no idea what to model, i find myself just modelling elephants I may try hard surface modelling.... BTW I love your pug Oh, and i really have to stop making threads about me.....