Originally posted by gster123 Swine!! Ha Ha! That made me laugh!! cheers! THX1138 - Fair enough mate - I think your mech is looking really cool. Personally though, I think that 'originality' is a bit overratted, which is not to say that I don't think that there are new and exciting things happening everyday, but usually something that seems new and original, I think, is often the result of developements in technology or medium and the confluence of previous ideas... I messed around some more with the occlusion settings - increasing the max distance to 600 and having a play with the samples setting as gster suggested. I also tried tweetytunes method, though it came out pretty white - I'm sure that can be adjusted though. Thanks again for everyones help!