Hi there thanks for your reply.
If you open the scene in M7 you will see all the control nodes for the charator but if you open it in 2008 these nodes are not visible (even though visibility is on).

Open the scene in 2008 and locate steve_LhandCtrlShape in the outliner and you will see there are no controls to select!

I tried your suggestion but this didnt work!

The output window shows,
Unrecognized node type 'circleControl'; preserving node information during this session.

But surely these are just wires or curves!

Cheers