Yeah I agree it should be the icing for the cake. I recall a Zbrush rep saying that zbrush is more a complimentary piece of kit to other software, and that it fits right in with any work flow, which essentially is right - same as Icing. I mean its great to do nice work in ZB by itself as well as take it into say Maya but I feel the flexibility of the software is shortened whereas taking dis maps and models into another app really expands the artists pallette even more Another thing with dudes using zb or mb is the fact that they flood the damn meshes too soon with too many polys, they dont build up the form in a layered style, Ive seen it here countless times, the models look lumpy because brush pressure is too high coupled with too many polys. Jay