Originally posted by rcb25 hmmmm might give the i_glass shader a miss for now then. need something a little easier. Im still worried that I cant find any mention of metal ray anywhere in maya??? If Mental Ray isn't loaded, go to Window>Settings/Preferences>Plug-in Manager and check the Loaded box next to Mayatomr.mll. You can also check the Auto load box to have it always load, though sometimes I have to manually load it anyway.