Thanks THX...that was a tutorial one...now I know a bit more I will redo that plane...later in the year...I would like it to be more clean and precies and add a bucket load of detail to it. Im sad I couldnt get the damn thing to work in the comp...I wanted to get the lighting etc right and then apply a discolouration (you know old photo) and scratches and stuff to it...give it that "Lost WW2 tapes) technicolour look LOL...anyway...I did have a go thats the main thing.

cheers bullet