That sounds good Joe, i've also been getting errors when i open up other files, it comes up in the 'output screen' when i load maya from double clicking a file, it says something about some value baing too low, then when i look at maya, the bottom status bar says user prefs saved in userprefs.mel, so you could be on to a winner there, i'll go and try it now, to be on the safe side i'll remove the file to my d-top an see what happens..........