hey,
after crits and guidance from the 1st character I did mainly regarding proportions , after studying references pics and watching anatomy and topology tutorials and reading books, I give it another shot, though not perfect I am happy with what is acheived so far, though not complete but almost there, ...as always crits are welcomed with open arms...just a quick note my model is not based on the perfect male as I see no one as perfect in proportions or size

Let me know what you guys think