Hey Mirek Many thanks. This is actually a different take on the character of Harley Quinn from the Batman Comics. I wanted a more real world feel and not a cartoon hence basing it more on the new Heath Ledger style of Joker. Do a google search for Harley Quinn and you'll see why, though I know theres not a great deal being given away here in terms of clothing right now. I was about to update the thread with a grab as Ive been working on some mini shorts for her but Zbrush crashed so I gotta start again on those. With regard to the shoulder this one is a place holder, there's already a corrected version along with the wrist/hand pointing to the mouth, as thats a little too collasped too, see the beginning of the thread as to what I mean. anyways will try and update later, gotta get ready for work now... laters Jay