Originally posted by arran oh wow - very nice jali! one thing though - in the side view - it looks like he's leaning back too much. i can see you're going for a relaxed stance - i think you just need to work on the center weight of the character - maybe try pulling the pelvis and top half of the body forward and give the knee more of a bend. Thanks man all these compliments are going to cause my head to swell about the leaning thing, yeah you're right but that is how he was in the reference pictures, how ever i will take on board what you have stated and make some changes