harp harp harp ...eyes, still a bit too anime ... with the cheaks volume riding so low like they are, it gives the face a very juvinile apearance dont know if your after a young girl or a older one if the volume was to rise up to match zaigomatic arch (if that is how you spell it) it would allow for sinking the flesh in under the cheak bones very fashionable amoungst the thiner of us it allways looks beter in 3/4 ey ... i have just started a patch model of my own but am having lots of trouble understanding the tools reference in the tutorial ... word are obviously not the authers strong point ... crawling forward, but soon (it is always so much easier to pull someone elses work back on track we always see it much more clearly ey