Ok ctbram,
after a lot of fumbling, learning, using the OUTLINER a lot more etc I have finished. It took a whole day BUT I had to watch the vid a few times, now its in the memory bank guys, 45 mins for my next one.
Thanks for the tutorial mate, excellent!!! These will look good on the Lanc!!!
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"A Darkness at Sethanon", a book I aspire to model some of the charcters and scenes