Cheers - but I got it covered - just going to set it up at rigging time. I got the "The Art Of Rigging" vol 2 book and they are covered in there (whole thing is about rigging a giant high poly robot. I have done it before but forgot how to - but a quick read and its all back. Also got some tips for the cables in there as well. Great set of books I have all 3 Thanks again