thanks dave...yeh I will get Jays method down pat first then have a go your way...time is the factor as the game modelling is taking up a butt ton of my time.

LOL Jay I am doing part 8 as we speak...and no point sendin the lads my good friend...they are all up in the mines shovelling iron ore brother LOL.

Now that sucked...big time..that REALLY hurt my brain Jay LOL.......REALLY hurt....damn fine tutorial.

cheers bullet