ooooooooooooook well. the reason i need the background transparent is because im doing the site in layers. and i want the background picture to show as if the logo thats rotating is just in front if the background. and having the background transparent i can place the logo where ever i would like on the site. with out getting a bounding box or having to have multiple logo rotation pictures. which saves load time and space. as for photoshop i do have that program version CS i belive. but i dont know it vary well. i whish there was a way to set background transparentcy in Maya as i know there's a flash Export as thats what i will be using to animate the logo. i will try your Quick time idea. hopfuly i works and i do it correctly. :bored: