Originally posted by NextDesign Hey Donnie. Looking good. Are you using the ambient occlusion method I posted a while back for you? Thanks man =) Yeah I saw that post about amb_occ, thanks! It does work, but I've actually found it's easier and quicker just to use an RGB to Lum utility and hook it right into the Diffuse of the Blinn. I've been getting some really good results that way. Have you ever tried it? I'm trying to figure out what to do to take this thing to the next level...as in production photo-real. It's not easy lol