Hmm.. I was making the expansion joints rubber, but do you think it would look better with a cloth texture on the outside? We use those here to so both would work. as far as suggestions go, I agree that its just your guy's opinion, but i think its important to help make it look better. I know I don't have to use your opinions, I usually change things so much, I don't mind Anyways, now MR is all screwy and keeps on doing that wied background... Anybody Know why?? Thanks alot, Brian