Originally posted by Jay Gen: lol you rock, I love the approach, full on!! I'll see how it looks once I get to a more finished state, it may or may not work. The refs I have have of mini shorts dont actually show any. But Ive always got time for camel toe :bandit: Jay Lol I try :p And about your pants, the folds tell me its somewhat of a soft pliable fabric so unless your punooch is made of rubber theres gonna be at least some cameltoe-age.