By the way Brian, I started out with Nurbs, then converted to Poly's and now I want to convert it to SubDs but it gives me an error saying: // Error: line 2: polyToSubdiv1 (Poly To Subdiv Node): One or more edges is nonmanifold. // Nonmanifold geometry cannot be converted to a subdivision surface. // To clean up nonmanifold edges, use Polygons->Cleanup with the nonmanifold option. // // Error: line 2: Command polyToSubdiv failed. Open Script Editor for details. // and the problem is that even after I do a Cleanup it still wont convert and it gives me the same error any suggestions? -Em