Cheers mate...I will check it out. Yes I have heard of the formulae.....I can do better with a REAL pencil...trust me. As for proportion...well I dont go with the perfect thing...lets face it all of us are SLIGHTLY different in proportion. I guess for a base 3D mesh thats a fair call, as you can stretch it etc etc.

I remember seeing a book somewhere (cant remember) where all of the body was organised into cubic and triangular dimensions. I think I was in high school (just before they invented electricity).

Thanks but mate...I will dine on knowledge in my lunchbreak today...just have to get the headphones in as my Neaderthal workmates HATE anything like this learning stuff. Cant have that you know...its lunchtime!!! LOL actually thats not fair on our Neanderthal cousins...they would probably surpass my mates in a lot of ways...LOL.

cheers bullet