heres a test render using mayas final gather.. watched the nifty video on aliaswavefronts website and decided to try it out, it works pretty good! doesnt take as long a global illumination which I like her face is split down the middle cause I havent merged the vertexes yet, but you get the picture. Any tips on texturing? Dont have much experience in that department...if anyone wants to try and texture her when im done, I'd be happy to email a scene file :p