Thanks for the tip!! But I don't know exactly what it is you are talking about... what is Issass?? I am alittle confuse... you know how i can update it?? if you want send me an email. I will take anyhelp i can get, I am running out of ideas, I have tried just about everythning, and i am still haveing major problems and bsod left and right. Thanks, Brian BTW Kurt, not a problem... but they are going to be done taking reels in a week or two, I hope you find out b4 then good luck!! Sounds like a really cool place to work Brian, update your firewall, i got some remote equipement trying to access isass.exe on my pc and think thats what screwed yours... (i think i saw a post of yours in another site about it while searching what the damn isass.exe was and what it does...)