Kurt wrote: is this based on a real photo? whats your work flow? Yes, it's based on a real photo. My work flow.... #1. Sketch #2. Shade and detailing #3. Color ( done with masks ) #4. Final detailing Chirone: It could be that the painting is showing anatomy errors of the real person, or the shading is off by so little that it's creating the illusion of an anatomy error. I did the same thing you did by popping the real reference over the sketch and it matched up, except for one thing. The pupils were bigger in sketch. I might consider an over paint from the reference, but switching back and forth from sketch to reference is a real pain in the butt, and most likely wont fix the problem. The painting is still alot different from the reference in many ways. Thanks for the help on the problem Chirone!