definately hard magicsy, it just doesnt want to do what I tell it. Thanks for the comments

It's handling things ok at the minute jhubbard, I'm knocking the display quality right down in the viewports and its a little slow but not too bad. Good tip to try though

I know what you mean joopson about ~£3000 cheaper than maya fur but not nearly as nice looking

Thanks for the info pyrus, I've already got the demo downloaded and installed (looked at it yesterday when paintFX was being a pain). Think I need to rtfm though as it looks a bit baffling at the minute!
Any tutorial links for it would be great!