Hi Harris, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.......thanks for your suggestions......I hadn't thought about using the split poly tool and will give that a go.....I have had some success using booleans to remove the windshield and then dragging the edges...this works but seems to take forever....I find it a bit frustrating to be able to get all the other bits fairly right quickly but then have to spend a lot of time to get the nose only so so.......many thanks for your input with this..... Steve VESA Australia