hahaha! with the refs im just actually getting them all over the net and from memory... trying to mix it up abit. Due to having a lot of work come my way within the past couple weeks i haven't been able to work on this but now that my plate is clear for a few days, i have finally finished this and stitched everything up. Heres the final update of the church section. Please crit and tell me what you like and dislike cheers guys n gals