thanks guys, that's pretty much it neptune, yep is for the front cover, these guys love 3D artwork so the bigger brighter n' bolder the better it is for them I would have liked to work longer on it especially the tenacles but the face took me a whle to do, the only thing i've really moddled before this was the 3D wall ( a few posts down from this one ) so it took me a 2 days to complete ( got a little complicated around the eyes, hense the ott glow )