add me to the list as well. i only run aim, haven't had icq in years (i think they deleted my account). info is in my sig. i can also be emailed at jeremy[nospam]@intenseyouth.com minus [nospam] lately become more interested in modelling and texturing (and animating i guess but i gotta take it one step at a time) for games, so if anyone has any good experience with games, i'm all about absorbing knowledge from you.