Thanks genny How do you mean sharpening up? do you mean anti-aliasing wise? or level of detail/shading wise? or something else? just like, more punchy? Hadnt thought of jungle. I keep thinking rock, or seeing a castle type room. a lush jungle setting sounds quite daunting, im not sure id know where to start...id like to use zbrush more whatever it is. Just been playing with some different lighting bits and bobs. Took a physical sky render. Wont be on computer long now but will try out that gamma thing when Im next on.