i did make 3 lights but it was just placement.. if you use high quality while setting up your scene you can see kinda how the light will look before rendering so you can line it up... i dont think i can get that tut from here as im not a subscriber... anywho just place them 2 spots and 1 directional... i finally got a book.. Introducing Maya 6 : 3D For Beginners.. anyone know how good it is as far as building skill??