hi, thanks you for the replys and @GecT, the tuts are awesome, I will use them.. But now I´m a little bit further in depth with this problem. below you see the first pic which is made with maya software which has rendered pretty well, what I´m looking for! Perfecto the fractal is a good idea, but how you see I wantet that effekt through real geometry! in that case a tree. and that light and fog penetrated through the tree gives a nice atmosphere, for what my efforts are! It were to nice if there wasn´t one problem! the second image shows the same scene rendered with mental ray and the disturbed render. the tree is converted to a mesh, that MR can read and setting aren´t responsible for that "mistake" ! I tryed out the settings... What could we do to render that with mental ray, because the final scene includes FG GI SunSKy. hope I explained everything fine and you can follow my vision for that aniamtion... It must get finished, I will!!!