Thanks Alan good stuff! I have to agree with you on the texture ( it's really just colored shaders for testing ) and had desided to do a custome texture last week, after some other feedback and yes even another lazy comment, using the 3D paint tool (I love that tool by the way!!!). It has been started though not much has been done do to the holidays, and me getting some new games . I hope to get back on it later this week and will post up a pic for some more C&C These animations are really just rigging and dynamics tests so the camera work is well....crap...so I will keep the cuts in mind for the final. I will think of some ways to improve the particals as well Thanks tons for your in-put Alan! Being that this is for my demo reel it is nice to get some C&C from someone of your expertise! More to come... D.