Firstly, thanks for writing that for me, I appreciate it alot. Secondly, I get the following error when I go to test it: // Warning: rman Warning: S05001 Shadeop error: argument types clash in op _assign at pc 850 in "C:/Documents and Settings/James/My Documents/maya/projects/Trapped/renderman/box/shaders/doublesided_shader_doublesidedM_". Shader "C:/Documents and Settings/James/My Documents/maya/projects/Trapped/renderman/box/shaders/doublesided_shader_doublesidedM_", Geometry "lidShape1". // And it just renders the default grey. However, when I tried it on a plane in an untitled file, it worked OK. Any ideas? James