Yup, follow VAMPUS's link reference to an older thread that talks about that same problem, and a workaround for you Good luck! PS, remember to actually MODEL your holes. It WILL NOT work if you just "trim" them PSS: WOW! great answers guys! (yeah, who needs that rage guy anyway! hehe..) That's what I LOVE about this place. It's so full of ideas that work Vamp > Good call on that thread, as I think that is what he was looking for exactly Mike, My FIRST gut instinct was that thread as well, but then I read the rest of his post, and I went, "OH! THATS what he meant!" hehe..