Its funny David, Because I know I'm going to buy many points and the T-Rex DVD for sure, but these 5 points are going to be really cool . . because they were free My wife walked into the study and took a look at me and said, "What are you up to and why do you have a big smile on your face?" Yeh I like the idea of the High Rez frog tutorial. I like the screen shots you posted! BTW: I can't wait for the spitfire tutorial. I had a go at building one and it isn't going too good Cheers Paul