Originally posted by Jay Much nicer Minstrel! The fuzziness of the MISS shader has gone, the character looks sharper too. Pose him up and get him in an environment. Best Jay Amen to that!! Dang, why haven't I seen this guy before? He's so cool! I like it a lot! I like that last pic, but I like the skin tone on the previous renders. Try giving him a little deeper of a tone. Sparticus