dont think i'll get carpaint any better, tryed to use carpaint phen, but i couldnt get flakes scale to get small enough (dont know why, any idieas how i could scale them down, coz ive used 0.0001 and it still was too big???), in the end ive done shader using a mix8 layer with 2 mia materials, and this is a result... PS havent put any light yet in the scene, all lighting from HDR