Heheh, me either garry . I think he would swipe off my head, lol. Anyways, blocky hands for me are not easy to model, they dont cooperate and vertex's go alll over the place when you try to apply bend modifiers. I tried to clear it up and heres a shot of his hand, which has multiple colors on it at the moment after needing those to select faces. lol this is what has taken me almost all day. Now i will attatch it and add details on the golem until its finished for my level .