This thread is really interesting. As for the last part from Jay, do you have tiltes to those DVDs, ISBN-numbers, links or anything. I would really like to have some pro modelling DVDs to dig into when I am done with the tutorial basics(which I am not). I am modelling a little boat of mine and have tried to keep it as simple and low on faces as I can and Maya occasionally make polys with 3 or 5 sides. Why does it insist on making them if it is bad?