Thank ctbram, Jay and bullet. @ctbram, the squadron of White 1 used that specific eagle emblem on the cowling. White 1 was my second choice as a color scheme to use. @Jay, I started out with material_x but just could not get it to work. My attempts varied from a lambert to a colored mirror What I'm looking for is a matte surface with the shine of the underlying aluminum metal coming thru. I looked on the net and there are plenty of examples of how to create spectactular new shiny metals but nothing, that I could find, that shows how to create the look I want. Using blinns for now.