Originally posted by Pure_Morning LOL :attn: does there need to be?! would more particles make a better movie? anyways there are probably a lot more than you realise!! as Jay said.. it's supposed to look cartoony ... it's not shrek I don't think they would use maya water to do the ice. I would think it's pure geometry with renderman shaders on there. I haven't seen the movie but that's what I would expect. I will see it this week though. A ... i said the water looked like maya's 7 water not the ice...