oh yeah the soundstorm is very nice, but i like the audigy2 for the free games and the breakout box heh oh and ive made a few adjustments to the setup for those interested before: Athlon XP2800 Crucial 1.5GB DDR2700 western digital 120gb IDE now: athlonXP3000 Corsair 1.5gb DDR2700 XMS (is XMS ok to run in workstations? kinda worried about stability) Maxtor 120gb SATA and do u no if plextor make black DVDRW?